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 Sunday, January 30, 2005

Goodbye, Pony

(Written Saturday, January 29th, 2005)

It is with a great deal of sadness and no small measure of grief today that we unexpectedly announce the untimely demise of our Ponydog.

Since late last summer Pony snapped twice at children who approached her unexpectedly when she was lying down, and once at me when I was wrestling with her on the floor. Until the first incident last August, we had been completely certain that she was flawlessly trustworthy with children and adults alike, and we'd taken her into the homes of friends who had children and encouraged kids in the park to pet and play with her if they showed an interest. We told people about the breed and that Pony was tolerant and good-natured (if a bit aloof in comparison to a Retriever or a Labrador), and they should have no qualms about approaching and touching her whenever they liked. When she barked and scratched at our friend's son last summer it was an enormous shock and completely rattled our foundation of trust in her. Subsequent to that first incident, we were told by every dog expert we approached (and we approached several) and dogloving friends alike that the startle reaction we'd seen in her was completely normal, and it was entirely within the realm of regular and expected dog behaviour. That a small child in an unfamiliar environment was probably seen as another dog infringing on her territory. That the old adage "let sleeping dogs lie" was true and we were naive to think otherwise or expect the breed to be "above" such things. These testimonials aside, we thought that even this isolated snapping tic was very incorrect for the English Setter breed and as such it was troubling to us on a number of levels. However, we were repeatedly assured that it could be expected from any dog, and so we took precautions and tried to mitigate against it by warning people not to approach her without calling her name, and by keeping her on-leash in other people's homes when children were around. As time passed the few incidents began to seem like isolated circumstances that wouldn't recur.

However, since the pregnancy became more advanced (at about the 5-6 mo. mark, with its attendant decrease in physical agility and noticeable size-of-tummy changes) we noticed instances of being given the hairy eyeball and some serious stubbornness on Pony's part. We explained it to ourselves as adjustment to the new at-home stability after our time away from Canada in November and the many new environments we'd taken her through all year. In preparation for the arrival of our first child in March, before Christmas we purchased an excellent book, How To Be Your Dog's Best Friend, written by American monks in upstate NY who raise German Shepherds. We began to implement a more rigorous routine of discipline and praise so that we could best prepare Pony for another small creature arriving in her midst in a few months, and to assure ourselves that we had as much possible control over, and trust in, her at any given time. We also joined an obedience class and Pony was the star of the show, partly because she would do anything for treats. Since official obedience training involves a food-as-motivation, Pony was a very quick study and came along in her discipline exceedingly well, and was a favourite of the training instructor. Here at home we re-instituted the box kennel and she was calling it home during meals and when she'd rest in the back hallway. She had completely acculturated to the dog bed we'd bought and she wasn't stealing things off the kitchen counter anymore. In short, things were going really well, and just two nights ago we were reflecting on the year and crowing to each other about what an incredibly successful adult-dog-adoption Pony had been, and how great she was fitting in to our lives, and about how wonderful she was, and how far she'd come since she arrived in November 2003 when she was shitting all over the carpet and barking for hours non-stop every time we left the house. Despite the few – and again, what we were told were normal and to-be-expected – startle-reaction outbursts over the last eight months, overall Pony was a sweet, lovely, funny, charming, loving and gentle dog. Just last night Pony clambered up onto the couch, burrowed in between us, and buried her head in my elbow and sighed with cartoonish contentment. We loved our dog Pony and she loved us.

Very unfortunately, it turns out that Pony wasn't, in the end, a good dog. Something, and we don't know what, but something wasn't quite right in her. Unfortunately, our earlier gut suspicions about the quirks in her temperment were correct. And, sadly, as a result, today we had to have her put down.

This morning as usual I got up, fed Pony and put her out, and then sat with her on the couch while I did my morning's email before heading out to Saturday prenatal fitness classes. A few hours later Turner got up. First thing, he went to greet Pony on the couch, as always. She was awake and saw him coming, thumping her tail, as usual, at his approach. As he put his face down to greet her and was rubbing her haunches, she suddenly snapped at him without warning. Turner pulled back, and pet her a few times along the belly, reassuring her, telling her that things were okay, hello, good morning, did I startle you? She seemed calm and unperturbed, and like he's done a hundred times in the past, he bent his head down to hug her.

With no warning, our dog exploded, attacking Turner without provocation: she went at his face, tearing apart his upper and lower lips, biting out a big chunk that we later took with us to the hospital. She scratched down his chest and left a weird deep bruise, which Turner doesn't remember getting, on his arm. He said it all happened very fast, that the attack was over before he even registered what was going on. Immediately Turner stepped up to discipline Pony as per our monk book instructions, but as soon as he could taste the blood, he knew that in those few crazed seconds, Pony's fate was decided. We'd talked about this hypothetical situation a few weeks ago: she was jittery at times for no reason and could possibly hurt someone with her startle-reaction scratches. What would it take to seal Pony's fate? One more snap? Two more? But this was worse, far far worse, than any small scare we'd anticipated based on past events – this was a violent and disfiguring assault. Period. Before the dust had even started to settle, Turner already knew Pony was gone.

After a look in the mirror assured him he'd definitely need to go to the hospital for stitches, Turner called my brother (who lives three doors down) and my father for help. Ten minutes later, I arrived home from my classes into a scene of blood and shock and disbelief, my brother in the doorway to hold things together (and, I think, to catch me had I fallen over at the sight of T's face) with my father pulling up in front of the house, on his cel phone, telling the on-call Rockyview Hospital Emerg docs that we were on our way.

Turner's face needed 40 stitches by a plastic surgeon, and in the end they couldn't use the chunk of Turner's mouth we brought to the hospital on ice. The doctors project that Turner's lip will start looking relatively normal within a few months, though right now he looks like he was in a car accident, or in a serious post-football-match-bar-brawl, or – well, as though he was attacked by a vicious dog. Overall however, he looks a lot better than we anticipated, given the state of his face before we went to the hospital. But he'll be taking everything he eats for the next week or so through a straw, and he earned some serious double-take stares from people when we were out getting T3s and an ice pack at the drugstore last night. He looks bad. But the hardest part started when we had to go home and face having to get rid of Pony.

The breed standard for the English Setter is mild mannered, polite, social, excellent with strangers and children, exceedingly gentle. We chose the English Setter breed specifically for its docility and compatibility with families; this breed is known to be the "gentlemen among dogs", and it is essentially unknown to hear of one being involved in an attack on people. However, although Pony was all the things on that breed standard list, it is clear that somehow she was also the purebred lightning strike of bad luck: an unpredictable and increasingly violent and dangerous animal.

To the end, we loved our shithead dog. We are grieving her departure. But we adopted her and fed her and walked her and played with her, and we took her across the country and bought her the good treats and nuzzled her and hummed with her in the mornings and before meals, we were fair and affectionate dog owners and we were careful to train her to be the best dog she could be to share our home and lives --- and I say without melodrama that she gravely betrayed us both. This afternoon I talked to the mother of the woman here who originally put us in touch with Pony's breeder, the mother herself a breeder of golden retrievers. She suggested that Pony was reacting to my pregnancy, and that she was displaying a protective testy response. Sure, me being pregnant might have been a factor. Like I said, we saw that she was having moments of weird edginess in the last while during which we didn't bug her to participate or heel, but in general she was a better, more obedient, happier dog since we settled in at home and started the new disciplines and routines following Christmas. The pregnancy was only one factor and it alone couldn't have caused our dog to attack and take a chunk out of Turner, of all people. Turner: her favourite person in the world, the person for whom she'd dance around and moan and wail when he'd come through the door after being out a few hours, the person for whom she'd come and sit and stay, the only person with whom she'd seriously tug-of-war, the person whose leg was the humping instrument of preference, the person who fed her dinner every day and walked her every day and sang to her every day. She'd snapped at me once, a month ago, but she savagely attacked and maimed Turner. It was not an accident. It was not a startle-reflex. She was not defending me, the pregnant person - I wasn't even home. It's heartbreaking, but our dog was not right, and today she went way, way too far.

It could have been something, an incident in her puppyhood or from prior to coming to us - we don't know. It could have been that her pedigree was simply too inbred and she was the last of a bad line. Again, we don't know. The breeder's telephone number has changed, the local contact woman's number has changed, and the mother I spoke to today was mostly preoccupied during our call with repeating that Pony was legally our dog and that neither she nor her daughter could be held responsible for an individual dog's behaviour - and sure, fair enough. They didn't breed Pony and they didn't raise or train her, and are not responsible in any way for the incident. But it wasn't the call we were expecting; I was trying to contact the local woman who helped me meet Pony because she'd made me sign a document when we adopted Pony guaranteeing first right of refusal if ever we wanted to give her away or have her destroyed for our own reasons. We thought that the breeder and her contacts would be alarmed and professionally interested in the anomaly of this part of their breed line as demonstrated in this incident with Pony; further, I thought I might be obligated to notify our contact woman here of our intention to have her put down. We're not thinking about legal action or anything like that – but we were desperately trying to make sure that we'd covered all our bases and had tried all avenues to prevent the inevitable before actually taking her to be put to sleep. If the breeder had wanted to take Pony back, and – we didn't know... place her on a farm? One that didn't have any children? Or... with a hunting operation? I don't know... but if she wanted her, we would have handed Pony over to the local contact as per the agreement. However, I was told that Pony was my dog and that I could do with her what I wished.

In part, we were lucky and prepared, insomuch as we knew exactly what needed to be done, and we were in total agreement about everything. But it was still pretty fucking hard. When we got home from the Rockyview, we called the 24-hour Animal Hospital and made the appointment to have Pony put down. We packed up all her stuff and hid it from ourselves in the basement so we wouldn't have to look at it once we got back from the clinic. When I thought about what Pony would ask for if she could have a last request, the answer could only be one thing. So we sat down at the kitchen table and methodically fed her treats, one after another after another, until she couldn't eat any more. (She'd always seemed insatiable, and we'd wondered aloud many times about her theoretical capacity for treats. It turns out that on an empty stomach, she went through two whole sausages of wet Rollover, about half a bag of marrowbones, at least a dozen chew sticks, and a big handful of smaller treats before she wouldn't take any more.) Then she sat on the back porch in the slanting late-afternoon January sunshine, looking off into the next yard while we got ready to leave. I think she knew, in some way, what was coming. We were wandering through the house, upset, hugging, breaking down, moving again, mainly staying away from her. Pony knew something was up, and it was clear she knew that she was the cause.

At the clinic they were excellent: we were crying as we arrived; they rushed us to a room; the nurse took Pony's stats. We had about three minutes' alone time to say goodbye. Then the doctor came in, put a leash on our Ponydog, and quietly lead her away. We turned and left, and broke down again in the parking lot. We stood out there by the car for a long time, sobbing into each other's shoulders.

There was no question in our minds about Pony and her fate, and we're sorry it took us this long to have to face what needed to be done. Emotionally, it would have been so much easier if this had happened before we loved her, before we knew her. All those "experts" and doglovers who gave us advice and told us her reactions were normal, well - we're sorry we listened to them. We should have had her put down last August after the first incident, because things obviously escalated despite our efforts and all our love. What initially seemed like a circumstantial reaction to unfamiliar surroundings was actually the beginning of something much worse. Slowly, quietly, Pony was becoming a dangerous animal capable of drawing blood and sending a person to hospital. All the while, we thought she was getting better and better, becoming more and more "our dog", adjusting and settling in, a lovely and beautiful dog who trusted and loved us.

In another six weeks we will have an infant in our home. This could have been a serious attack on our baby child. Pony badly scared two children this year when she scratched and barked at them. Both those incidents were rattling and deeply foreboding, and never should have happened in the first place. Upon reflecting on this final and terrible attack, we are facing the reality that however unlikely, Pony was unpredictable to the point where it could have been any of you - you who so kindly took care of our dog for the weekend or the evening or while we were away on the book tours, or who welcomed us and her into your home for a visit or for the night. I can't escape the sense that by bringing our friends and families into contact with a dog we thought was sweet tempered and harmless, we inadvertantly put them in harm's way and they could have been the victim of this assault. And I am – we are – so, so sorry.

In a terrible twist of irony, we just finished the final edits to a piece that will appear next month in 2 Magazine of Toronto about the joys of owning a dog - we co-wrote the article, which is very specific and laudatory about Pony and our lives and adventures with her over the last year and more. And now, this.

We know we did the right thing, the only responsible thing to do. But we are sad for all kinds of conflicting and mixing reasons tonight. We miss our Ponydog.

RIP Ponydog, April 13, 2001 - January 29, 2005

Categories: Pony

Comments [34]


1/31/2005 12:58:09 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Chris and Ashley,

I am terribly sorry to hear that this has happened to the both of you. Both Bruce and I were disturbed and upset by your loss and the circumstances surrounding it. Chris, I hope that you are feeling well. Both of you please don't hesitate to call me if you need anything.

David Friese
2/1/2005 3:23:02 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Chris and Ashley,

What a heartwrenching story. I to had an English Setter out of the same male as Pony, Canaan. He has numerous problems such as thyroid, struture, and one that has just began which is like Pony's... an attitude. I wish you guys the best and really wish the breeder of this line would stop and think what she is doing to this breed!

Take care,
Buffy
2/1/2005 3:28:10 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I am very sorry for your loss and sadness. I will forward your letter to all fellow ES breeders. I have been a breeder for 20+ years and in my opinion breeding is never careful enough. As much as we try, there is just not enough truth told. It has been said that there may be a type rage syndrome developing in certain ES bloodlines, but I don't know which lines. Unfortunately too many breeders do not tell the whole truth to buyers or to other breeders for that matter. Pony's breeder really needs to be aware of this and I hope the mother will pass the word. I have an ES male of similar disposition. He has snapped unprovoked a few times and bitten twice, since he was about 3 years old. He is now 6 and neutered, living here with me forever in a kennel situation until I can decide to let him go, or he decides for me. He seems very happy with confinement and only me to visit him but I realize that every day I take a chance with him. I bred his litter myself from my lovely and gentle female champion to a male dog in PA. His pedigree is completely made up of top winning champions but I blame myself for not knowing enough about the sire's background. My female was spayed and never bred again when I realized the instability of this male. I have kept up with the littermates and am told my dog is the only one known to have snapped or bitten, although one sister seems quite tense
and edgy at times. You can be sure your letter will be sent to her owners as well. I have also bred a few dogs who are now in Canada, and have recently received a female puppy who is sired by a Canadian dog in the Toronto area.

My deepest sympathy, and wishes for you both to begin to heal soon.



2/1/2005 3:33:32 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Hi: I'm terribly sorry to hear your bad news. Rage syndrome is very uncommon in English Setters.
I'm assuming that you had a Laveric English Setter that was registered with the AKC. Did you have an autopsy done on the dog? There is a chance that it had something like a brain tumor.
If you know the pedigree and the breeder, I would talk to them. They will want to know what happened.
2/1/2005 3:36:56 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
We didn't have an autopsy done. We basically wanted to get things over with as soon as possible. Having your dog put down costs $240 or so and we're on a tight budget these days, so even if we had considered it ahead of time, I think we might have declined the idea of an autopsy just for financial reasons. A
2/1/2005 3:38:34 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Oh Ash, Turner. I'm so sorry that you both and of course Pony had to go through this shocking and tragic series of events. I can't help thinking on some level she was revealing/confessing what was inside her in time for you to react before an infant entered her life. In a way, a very loving act on her part.

Thoughts are with you both, A
2/1/2005 4:09:30 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Wow that's a sad story. You know...first I must say this I am not trying to make any excuses or second guess the situation - believe me! I used to deal often with aggressive dogs/sudden behaviour changes/difficult dogs when I worked for a trainer in Vancouver who specialised in helping people deal with these types of dogs and make difficult decision about dogs like this; so I have been there and done that when it comes to dealing with this type of sad and horrendous situation - horendous for both the owners and dog alike.

First thing I would think of is Necropsy, find out about organic disease...and also look at the pedigree, but first necropsy.

Thanks for sharing, I hope folks take it as a warning and don't just condemn. This is not a situation that any of us ever wants to be involved with, but we do breed dogs...and so few of us can make the difficult decision to advise euthanasia earlier, or to get qualified help for a dog exhbiting this type of sudden behaviour change, and unpredictability. Not only because there is little qualified help out there, but also because emotions take hold and reason and logic are lost. I always say to people when discussing euthanasia - I know you love your dog, and don't want to put him down, but just imagine how tough it is for him to be living inside that head right now. Even the "bad" dogs, and especially the sick ones, usually exhibit stress over these incidents...

Anyway I do go on, thanks for sharing.
2/1/2005 5:31:33 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Ashley, Turner and the Spirit of Pony,

In my 45 years on planet earth, I have owned a dog for almost 40 of them. I've had put down all but one, which was given to a better home. The others were due problems related to the old age. One, due to the move Nicole and I made to my parents' after Calgary, was due to circumstances that could not be avoided. I have no idea of your personal experience but want you both to know I do understand. A connection of the human emotional heart to
another entity, of any kind, is experienced on a deep level that exposes us to aquality all beings of earth have a familiarity with - vulnerability.

I wish to share my regards to both of you. First to Turner and his traumatic experience. The betrayal of a loved one is a damaging experience. To have freely given yourself to Pony and then have her turn on you is a circumstance that ruptures the emotional heartfelt bond, particularly when the injury is of a physical nature. Then, to cope with the other emotional aspect of the situation - having her put down. Knowing this is the best thing to do may be a justified rationalization, however, enduring the emotional journey of such a incident only adds to the overall trauma. To you, I express my regards and my love and care.

To Ashley, my darling, I send all the love a father could send. A vicious attack, by one you love, on another you love must be such an emotional upheaval that rips at the fabric of your heart - leaving you in one confused and fucked up state. All this while experiecning the wonderful joy of being pregnant with your first child. Emotions of the extreme. All rationalizations and justifications aside; the loss of Pony is devasting. You have my deepest sympathy and understanding.

To both of you I send my love at a time of trauma, betrayal and loss, all while in the process of becoming parents. I know what I experienced when I heard, and while I am expressing myself to you. I can only imagine the consuming emotional backlash of your experience. Know that I love you both and that I am thinking and feeling about you.

To the Spirit of Pony, who I will miss greatly. I incorporated Pony as a family member. I cannot fathom what must have been going on within for you to turn on someone to whom you were so connected. I enjoyed your company during your visits. Taking you up to the Spring with my dogs was a journey filled with unknown. Where on God's green earth did you go? You provided me with many laughs. Until we meet my friend.

All My Love
Mike
2/1/2005 6:16:14 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Ashley:

I want to express my sincerest sympathies and condolences for the loss of your Pony and the emotional and physical trauma you and Turner have experienced. It is horrific and what you have gone through is by no means typical of English Setters. These are patient, tolerable, sweet dogs that should NEVER exhibit aggression.

I pray that in time the scars, both physical and mental, will heal and please know that Pony is in a better place - the poor thing was probably just as torn and confused by her own behavior as the rest of us.

Jennifer
2/2/2005 7:24:39 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Ash, Turner - as former and future dog owners and people who care for both of you, we are so so sorry you had to experience the frightening and sad time you've just gone through. We just read the post yesterday and talked about it on the phone last night. We just can't imagine.

Much love from both of us.
2/3/2005 12:07:42 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I am so sorry - what horrible experiences to go through.
Good thoughts go out to both of you.
2/3/2005 6:44:36 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Wow. We are so sorry to hear about the tragic events that have happened to your family. We saw this website a couple days ago and now again today told a friend to look at the setter dog that attacked and you have changed some of the content... you were sort a slamming the breeder and a few other people (I believe there were at least 2 parties mentioned), do you have evidence that this dog.. had previously bitten or was vicious with other people or animals? Just seems wierd you would slam the breeder when, there was no evidence when you first got this dog... Hummm. Does this breeder know about this? Did you ever have the dog taken to a vet when the first occurance happened? Well this story has turned our family off of ever getting a dog.. What a mean and vicious world. Good luck with your baby.
Name Witheld
2/4/2005 2:31:00 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. Losing a pet is never easy but under your circumstances, having no choice in saying goodbye makes it doubly difficult.

Your concerns though have convinced me that although a big dog is fun to wrestle with, I wouldn't worry very much if a chihuahua bit anyone.

I also had my mouth bitten into by a big black lab when I was very young and luckily for me it wasn't very serious and I have no fear of the animals.

Again sorry for your loss.
2/4/2005 4:03:06 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Ashley and Turner,
I am so sorry to hear of theose unfortunate events that went on, wow, really makes a person open there eyes. Well I have read some of the posts on your site and I am not going to mention my name as you never know who is going to misconstrude what, but I am the one who put you in touch with Pony's breeder, so you know who I am. I am not really sure where to start. When I first met with you guys it was for a puppy out of my bitch, she had come up empty and I had kept you in mind when this adult dog came available, I never thought something like this would happen. I kept that dog in my home around my 2 children, other dogs, cat and never thought anything of it, mainly because she was an ES and "well they dont bite" right? I am so soory this happened to both of you I know how loved that dog was, she was not only your pet, your dog but she was your companion, for that I am sorry. I hope that the breeder has since contacted you, and you can ask her some of the questions that will help with closure for both Yourself and Turner.
One thing I will leave you with is I have a Cannan grandson here who has horrible temperment,the breeder of Pony had given to me as a gift,(she never bred this dog I have but it was a replacement puppy owed to her) to replace my old dog(they shared the same birthdate) this dog has been with me since he was 7 weeks and has been well socialized, puppy classes,but has never gotten better. This dog is aprox 18 moths old, and is Displastic in both hips, but that is no surprise his mother was too, so why was she bred, I too have some questions about that line. After hearing about this, I will never think of placing this dog anywhere as I could never have someone go through the same thing that you guys did. Ultimately this dog will have to be sent back to his breeder, so she can deal with her breeding problems, it is not fair to keep this dog, as he can not be a member of our family.Once again I am so sorry.
I wish you both well, and congats on your new little bundle of joy.
Friends
2/5/2005 2:58:44 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Just followed a link from a friends journal. I have agonized over such things. Our first dog, a wirehair fox terrier was our baby
for three years. We worried about when the baby came as those dogs never quite abandon puppyhood. We never had a care.
She would lay her head on the baby when I nursed him, content. Later babies pulled her fur. She never snapped not once.
Our children are grown now, we have a huge stray. I will never leave her unattended around children. I just don't know her
background. She looks part afghan part doberman. She has never snapped at us. But she is a huge dog. I think having owned
a big dog now, I realize that they view the world much more as a hunter than a small breed. My sympathies to you both.
Don't let this spoil your love of dogs or animals. Breed means nothing. Each dog is an individual.
2/7/2005 12:24:37 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
kids and all people are more important than dogs. duh. (and not by just a little - by an infinity).

i have never understood people who insist on treating dogs like people.

we should be kind to dogs and all animals - but it is irrational (to put it kindly) to pretend like they're little people. they aren't.

i have never understood this infernal hand-wringing and psycho-babble about - dogs.

dogs are not people. grow up. be responsible - before the accident, not after.

dogs are not people. repeat that to yourself over and over. how can you not get this?
2/7/2005 8:56:40 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I just read your sad posting linked from PlanetSimpson.com. (I'm an old pal of Turners from his high school days. BTW - Enjoyed the book.) I had to post a comment here because my wife and I have experienced a very similar situation after the birth of our daughter, Lily Marie, 16 months ago.

We were in love with our retriever/lab mix, Taylor. We rescued Taylor from the SPCA when he was just 6 months old. He was our "first child" so to speak. I have more video recordings of him doing silly things like swimming and fetching sticks than I care to admit. Some people can't understand how dogs can become such a huge part of our lives. If you aren't a dog person - you just won't get it. Anyway...

Taylor's gentle nature seemed to change soon after we brought home our little girl from the hospital. He became what I would describe as depressed and agitated with this new little person in the house that was demanding all of our attention.

It soon became apparent that we had to find Taylor a new home, both for Lily’s safety and our sanity. Making this decision was tough enough, so I can’t imaging how hard things have been for you guys. All I can tell you is that I know we made the right decision.

Best of luck with the upcoming addition! Your lives are about to change!

Cheers,

Nick, Kristina & Lily Osburn
2/9/2005 1:25:13 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
You put your face next to a dogs face that you don't trust while standing over him?????
Also that we did'nt "bug" him for awile thing was superb
I thought you said you studied dog behaviour ???

Never the less he was only a dog ,and you are still gripping over putting him down.
Good luck raising a CHILD!!!!!

richfisher
2/13/2005 9:31:52 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I just happened to run across your well written column. I am sorry for your loss, but really, it was a DOG!! A dog that threatened children and disfigured your husband! It is a sign of something wrong in our country when people can get so wrapped up and emotional over putting down a quirky dangerous dog. Probably part of the reason this dog went bad, was the fact that it was living in an unreal environment being treated in an unreal manner. All these modern urbanites think they can have a lassie world and live in peace with Mother Nature. Mother Nature is a crual, cold hearted, uncaring Bitch! I think every 'Back to Nature' urbanite should have to watch a pack of coyotes ripping apart the back end of a live Whitetail fawn while it's mother watchs from a distance. Pulls on the heart strings, yes, but it's real life.
This dog deserved a 22 cal bullet in the head, and left for the coyotes to forage on and return it to nature.
2/13/2005 6:00:10 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I have a friend who had the same breed of dog. She started snapping at people and they had to have her put down as well. They had two kids and were afraid the dog would bite them or one of their friends.

The snapping seemed to happen when the dog was lying down and someone disturbed her.
2/13/2005 7:21:10 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I have always adopted rescued dogs. Most were so badly abused that it took years of love and affection to break through their fears and suspicions. And despite all the love they were given, sometimes it still took years before their guard came down, when they finally knew they were loved and were safe.
But with some of my dogs that moment never came, or only for the briefest of moments. But in that instant, it was I who was redeemed. Despite my disappointment or frustration with them, all is tempered by knowing that I am a better person for my having loving them, in full acceptance of their character, for trying to free them of bitter experience and rough instinct.
I am so sorry that you had to put your dog down , but I am heartened that you still love him and miss him despite everything. Yes, it is true he was only a dog, but we humans hopefully have the capacity of understanding, compassion, and forgiveness.
Ponydog might not have known what he did or why, but if there is any justice, he will not experience regret, but will remember the good times, the quiet times when he was loved. I hope that wherever he is now, he knows that he is still loved and sorely missed.

2/13/2005 8:29:51 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I'm trying not to sound cold but: it happens. Breed traits are indicators, not guarantees. You did your research and did the best you could, but all dogs are individuals. Next time, do the same research and careful breed selection. Odds are you won't see the same thing twice. Of course, next time, you'll have a kid, so you'll have to be less forgiving if a problem does occur.

And for all you folks saying "It was only a dog": duh. Of course, we have to take care of people first. But people and dogs form close emotional bonds. That's just a fact.
11/21/2005 11:03:21 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I am so sorry, I hope you have not been turned off of English Setters because of what has happened.

I sometimes get concerned about the rescue I have, he after a year still tends to growl and bark very nasty when my 19 year old son comes in after a late night, he's never attempted to lunge or bite, but I can't help wondering what this dog went through before we got him!

I would never tolerate any dog of mine biting someone, and like you would have done the same thing...please don't feel guilty, these things just sometime happen as a result of poor breeding or whatever mental issues a possibley abused dog may have gone through, and possible illness....
We are about to adopt our second English....
I only wish my 19 year old son was still with us to meet these wonderful dogs, he died of cancer this past Feb. 28/05 after a four year fight with the best....he loved dogs...
Best of luck
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